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		<title>By: Vista &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DirectX 10 games on non-Vista PCs?</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-3532</link>
		<dc:creator>Vista &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DirectX 10 games on non-Vista PCs?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: god of machines</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-2450</link>
		<dc:creator>god of machines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok lol . this is some of the best news yet , vista is one of the SHITIEST OS&#039;s of my time. 
im planning on getting some new 8800 GTS&#039;s and now i dont need vista the performence of those baby&#039;s is ging to increase ten fold my friends. so Bill Gates FUCK YOU&gt; LOL WE FOUND YOUR  SCHEME.
Just like when you stole MS DOS for 30 grand lol. Your not a software enginerer your a fraud and now we finnally got some redemption on one of the shittiest OS&#039;s of all time. what do i ask . what you trying to copy MAC lol. well thats all i have to say. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok lol . this is some of the best news yet , vista is one of the SHITIEST OS&#8217;s of my time.<br />
im planning on getting some new 8800 GTS&#8217;s and now i dont need vista the performence of those baby&#8217;s is ging to increase ten fold my friends. so Bill Gates FUCK YOU&gt; LOL WE FOUND YOUR  SCHEME.<br />
Just like when you stole MS DOS for 30 grand lol. Your not a software enginerer your a fraud and now we finnally got some redemption on one of the shittiest OS&#8217;s of all time. what do i ask . what you trying to copy MAC lol. well thats all i have to say. <img src='http://theangrypixel.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: &#124; pcsgaming.info</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; pcsgaming.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  the ANGRY pixel &#8221; &#8221; DX10 Gaming on Non-Vista PCs? &#8230; if you want to play a DX10 game in all it&#8217;s graphic richness, you&#8217;d need &#8230; games on their Windows XP PCs, but please remember: &#8230; Indian Gaming Industry &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#124; pcsgaming.info</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; pcsgaming.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gfdgdg</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>gfdgdg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine the average Joe in a computer shop buying a 500.00 buck video card and a 70.00 buck games after 7 month of economy and the vendor say.Yo! You have to upgrade to VISTA to experience it! 

399.99 
Ding!

Thanks you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine the average Joe in a computer shop buying a 500.00 buck video card and a 70.00 buck games after 7 month of economy and the vendor say.Yo! You have to upgrade to VISTA to experience it! </p>
<p>399.99<br />
Ding!</p>
<p>Thanks you</p>
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		<title>By: Robert M Finest</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert M Finest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Us the nobody can&#039;t do anything about it.THis is what i call being exploited/manipulated.It&#039;s the time that a new OS appears for PC and kick Winshit out.They are exploiting not only the video card market , The Gaming Market  , but their own market by forcing people to purchase to upgrade.They make it bigger and sharper and make the average joe believe that what it should be called *Innovation*

Their New anti-piracy thing make me laugh.You have to AGREE that you aren&#039;t a Pirates.What the hell is that?
If i&#039;m a monster because i have 4-5 mp3 downloaded via torrent what Bill gates is?That just what they do pirating the  industry and stealing other technology.

Now you have to encourage microsoft by buying their product to play other product.That make no sense.It&#039;s exploitation of the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Us the nobody can&#8217;t do anything about it.THis is what i call being exploited/manipulated.It&#8217;s the time that a new OS appears for PC and kick Winshit out.They are exploiting not only the video card market , The Gaming Market  , but their own market by forcing people to purchase to upgrade.They make it bigger and sharper and make the average joe believe that what it should be called *Innovation*</p>
<p>Their New anti-piracy thing make me laugh.You have to AGREE that you aren&#8217;t a Pirates.What the hell is that?<br />
If i&#8217;m a monster because i have 4-5 mp3 downloaded via torrent what Bill gates is?That just what they do pirating the  industry and stealing other technology.</p>
<p>Now you have to encourage microsoft by buying their product to play other product.That make no sense.It&#8217;s exploitation of the system.</p>
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		<title>By: ubyetwwg</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>ubyetwwg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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ubyetwwg</description>
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		<title>By: &#124; pcsgaming.info</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; pcsgaming.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  the ANGRY pixel &#8221; DX10 Gaming on Non-Vista PCs?  The Angry Pixel Blog is part of the Angry Pixel community - one that is built by gamers, for gamers. &#8230; PCs, but please remember: &#8230; Indian Gaming Industry &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#124; pcsgaming.info</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; pcsgaming.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  the ANGRY pixel &#8221; DX10 Gaming on Non-Vista PCs?  &#8230; the benefits of jumping from a stable gaming platform to one that is yet to &#8230; their Windows XP PCs, but please remember: &#8230; Indian Gaming Industry to be &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#124; pcsgaming.info</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; pcsgaming.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  the ANGRY pixel &#8221; DX10 Gaming on Non-Vista PCs?  &#8230; able to run DX10/Vista only games on their Windows XP PCs, but please remember: &#8230; Indian Gaming Industry to be worth $700 million in next 5 years (0) &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#124; pcsgaming.info</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; pcsgaming.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  the ANGRY pixel &#8221; DX10 Gaming on Non-Vista PCs?  the ANGRY pixel. Home. Staff. Contact. Archives. Forum. Games. Register. DX10 Gaming on Non-Vista PCs? &#8230; from a stable gaming platform to one that &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Abhinav</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhinav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting...</description>
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		<title>By: DirectX 10 games on non-Vista PCs? &#171; VistaSucks.WordPress.Com</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>DirectX 10 games on non-Vista PCs? &#171; VistaSucks.WordPress.Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 18:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Microsoft.Is.Evil</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft.Is.Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m inclined to think that Microsoft will continue support for XP, and they&#039;ll make us think it was their idea to begin with.

Seriously, with such a large user base out there they&#039;d be mad to drop supporting it so early. The thing is, Vista really doesn&#039;t offer much that XP can&#039;t do now. Add to that all the DRM complications and XP still gets the big ease of usage tick.

I think also, that whilst there are businesses out their embracing Vista (businesses who also embrace every other stupid IT buzzword), most of the uptake of Vista is probably from mom and dads who get bedazzled by salesperson speak. Ironically, if they (the moms and dads) have a hard time using Vista, they&#039;ll also be relatively likely to turn to something like OS X next time - doubly so since they have no need for games. For the gamers out there, why on earth would we upgrade for at least a year or so - my geforce 7900s are still quite nice and I still remember the dent they put in my pocket. Vista Direct X 10 hardware still hasn&#039;t hit that nice sweet spot where a purchase would make sense. Look at the Dell pages - XP was gone when Vista first came out, and now it&#039;s back in force - so, yes even they recognise the large demand out there for XP. So, in no uncertain terms, Microsoft can shove their gawd damn Vista OS up their gawd damn arse.

I think the annoying thing in this whole debate is a choice over XP or Vista (would you like a pinto or a volvo?)... I&#039;d buy a PS3 but it doesn&#039;t have Eve Online... hmmph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m inclined to think that Microsoft will continue support for XP, and they&#8217;ll make us think it was their idea to begin with.</p>
<p>Seriously, with such a large user base out there they&#8217;d be mad to drop supporting it so early. The thing is, Vista really doesn&#8217;t offer much that XP can&#8217;t do now. Add to that all the DRM complications and XP still gets the big ease of usage tick.</p>
<p>I think also, that whilst there are businesses out their embracing Vista (businesses who also embrace every other stupid IT buzzword), most of the uptake of Vista is probably from mom and dads who get bedazzled by salesperson speak. Ironically, if they (the moms and dads) have a hard time using Vista, they&#8217;ll also be relatively likely to turn to something like OS X next time &#8211; doubly so since they have no need for games. For the gamers out there, why on earth would we upgrade for at least a year or so &#8211; my geforce 7900s are still quite nice and I still remember the dent they put in my pocket. Vista Direct X 10 hardware still hasn&#8217;t hit that nice sweet spot where a purchase would make sense. Look at the Dell pages &#8211; XP was gone when Vista first came out, and now it&#8217;s back in force &#8211; so, yes even they recognise the large demand out there for XP. So, in no uncertain terms, Microsoft can shove their gawd damn Vista OS up their gawd damn arse.</p>
<p>I think the annoying thing in this whole debate is a choice over XP or Vista (would you like a pinto or a volvo?)&#8230; I&#8217;d buy a PS3 but it doesn&#8217;t have Eve Online&#8230; hmmph</p>
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		<title>By: Dman20</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Dman20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MS won&#039;t support it for XP no matter what.  Why you ask?  Well simple, MS is discontinuing support on XP, why would they sink millions of dollars into a product thats not adding anything to there bottom line.

Surely they will work on patches between now and its end but adding new features isn&#039;t the likeliest of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MS won&#8217;t support it for XP no matter what.  Why you ask?  Well simple, MS is discontinuing support on XP, why would they sink millions of dollars into a product thats not adding anything to there bottom line.</p>
<p>Surely they will work on patches between now and its end but adding new features isn&#8217;t the likeliest of things.</p>
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		<title>By: UsedCar Parts Guy</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>UsedCar Parts Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope so,  I&#039;m not a big fan of forced upgrades.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about? Since when is reverse engineering illegal?
&quot;In the United States and many other countries, even if an artifact or process is protected by trade secrets, reverse-engineering the artifact or process is often lawful as long as it is obtained legitimately.&quot;( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering )

Really, if reverse engineering was illegal then Microsoft would have long since sued WINE into the ground: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)

Now, it would have been ILLEGAL if they had taken the DX10 binaries, stuck them in wrappers, and put them up online for everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about? Since when is reverse engineering illegal?<br />
&#8220;In the United States and many other countries, even if an artifact or process is protected by trade secrets, reverse-engineering the artifact or process is often lawful as long as it is obtained legitimately.&#8221;( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_engineering</a> )</p>
<p>Really, if reverse engineering was illegal then Microsoft would have long since sued WINE into the ground: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)</a></p>
<p>Now, it would have been ILLEGAL if they had taken the DX10 binaries, stuck them in wrappers, and put them up online for everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger_That</title>
		<link>http://theangrypixel.com/blog/2007/04/21/dx10-gaming-on-non-vista-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger_That</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reverse engineering is not necessary. MS will release DX10 will release a version of DX10 for XP sooner or later. The Vista requirement is just a temporary ploy to boost sales.</description>
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